Full Gear, Bay Bay!

Matt has had a crazy 24 hours, but still made it on to talk about the excellent Full Gear. We talk about what we liked, what we didn’t like, and where we see AEW going from here. All on National Cowboy Sh*t day.

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00:00.00
Jeremy
So we were going to record Yesterday. Ah but I was a little out of it from the from the booster shot and we’re like oh it’s fine. We’ll we’ll do do it on Wednesday we’ll like watch nxt and stuff and ah some other things happened. Ah what what happened Matt.

00:14.24
Matt
Yeah, as of ah, as of 1 30 this morning I am ah I’m a dad ah eleven weeks early but he is here. He is healthy. My wife is healthy as well. She’s up moving around great. Um, so yeah, it’s. Needless to say it’s it’s been a. It’s been a crazy several days here.

00:34.60
Jeremy
Ah, which is great that it didn’t happen. We were in Minneapolis that would have been extra crazy. Um, but you know your son happened to be born on a national cowboy shit day.

00:40.11
Matt
Um, yeah.

00:47.91
Matt
Yeah, he was he just wanted wanted to see it for himself I can’t say that I’ll blame him. But yeah, it’s ah it’s something my dad actually joked. He said you know we’re we’re lucky he held on for those 2 weeks.

00:53.67
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:03.79
Jeremy
Um, yeah, yeah, no, you would have just been there. Yeah yeah.

01:03.85
Matt
Um, and and wasn’t born in Guatemala because we would have had to smuggle him across the border or actually we we would have been stuck in Guatemala for you know, 121214 weeks while he was in the neonatal unit so yeah that that would have been ah that would have been nuts.

01:21.39
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:23.00
Matt
I would have spent 14 weeks spending the the not real money and come back and like owed my ass to everybody who exists. But um, yeah, no, it’s ah it’s exciting. Um, so who.

01:29.73
Jeremy
Ah.

01:37.45
Jeremy
Yeah.

01:39.53
Matt
Riding an adrenaline high So I figured we would talk about my favorite thing outside of family at this point pro wrestling.

01:43.20
Jeremy
Ah, yeah I was super surprised I was pretty pretty ah a set that I was like oh I’m going to do a solo podcast today because there wasn’t enough time for me to get anyone else on board and I thought we should really do a full gear podcast before it gets too too far. Separated from from the event. But ah yeah, we were in Minneapolis we ah with a friend of the podcast Michelle who’s been on a few previous episodes back on the original run and it was it was a it was a fun time I enjoyed watching a big large scale wrestling event which is. I don’t know twice the size at least of of when we saw um, ah double or nothing back in Jacksonville back in may and it was inside in a what a apparently is a ah kind of a covered hot spot right now. So that was fun.

02:35.64
Matt
Yeah to to be in in a basically completely maskless Arena um, after being in a completely maskless mall of America during a covid outbreak in Minneapolis was yeah, it was a little frightening but it was it was worth it. This show was great.

02:41.37
Jeremy
Ah, man.

02:55.48
Matt
Um, I honestly I can’t point to a single moment on this card that wasn’t oh well I can I can point to a moment that wasn’t good, but that’s just a personal beef. Um, but I mean from start to finish this thing it it. It started with the the buy in the the women’s tag match and it didn’t slow down. From start to finish just just incredibly well incredibly well done booking wise. Ah maybe don’t have a biting segment in every match and an eye gouge and a low blow. Um some of those got a little repetitive but outside of that minor complaint. Ah, just just a wonderfully well booked show. Um everybody on it gave you know a hundred and hundred and eighty percent. Um, so yeah, it was it was nuts.

03:43.34
Jeremy
Yeah I think I remember jericho talking about how kind of early on he had ah a kind of a criticism where there wasn’t enough talk between the different producers and the different matches that were happening on a single show of dynamite or ah or a paperview. To where there were a lot of repetitive um spots across like 1 episode of dynamite or or double or nothing or full gear something like that and I think that that had mostly kind of been rectified, especially when kind of chris jerico pointed it out but it it seems like full gear. They kind of lost that thread a little bit and I think. Partially because this met this. This was so jampacked and I don’t think like if they were talking about what spots a lot of people were talking about big spots like table spots or anything like that. But I think everyone was just like oh biting like no 1 was really thinking about that like. That across all that things. So hopefully they kind of notice that and be like okay we got to maybe not do that in every match.

04:42.49
Matt
Yeah, and it it could just be I mean the you know and an episode of dynamite if if it’s if it’s that the talent basically like works out their own matches and they go out and do it and there’s not a whole lot of oversight I I get that that they don’t yeah I mean they’re trying to stay in the zone not get distracted work and.

04:49.69
Jeremy
Ah.

05:02.28
Matt
Ah, what other people have going on. Um on Dynamite You don’t notice it as much. It’s there like I’ve it’s there I’m not going to say it’s not but I think the commercial breaks ah promo segments things like that I think they cut in enough that it it. It kind of creates distance between those spots and and prevents it from.

05:11.47
Jeremy
Now.

05:21.77
Matt
From seeming as repetitive as a paper view does.

05:23.90
Jeremy
Yeah, so like this pay review I was looking at the times and this had I think close to Seventy 2 percent of the show was was in ringtime and they like aew’s average is already higher than wws but there are normal averages like something like sixty three percent of a show. So like that’s the fact that we had ah even kind of ah a gigantically filled card. They used all of those four hours or four and a half when you talk about the buy in ah and it was so much wrestling if if I could if I could have 1 criticism I really feel like omega and and hang man.

05:54.40
Matt
So yeah, every every minute of it.

06:03.48
Jeremy
Deserve to be five minutes ten minutes longer um and like I was thinking that maybe they programmed a little bit about overage into that time. But no right when we hit 11 o’clock in that Arena um, a central time you saw that copyright notice was then they lifted up. Hang like like dark water just gotten a hang man up and there’s like nope we’re out because that’s when the clock clock struck midnight on the east coast. So um, yeah, that was my thing and that’s that’s a problem in general that a w has is they don’t quite. They don’t manage their shows well enough on time to where. That main event gets the time it should most of the time a lot of times it gets short cut short.

06:44.51
Matt
Yeah I it is It is a recurring thing and I think that’s why it? Yeah, it’s it’s hard to like not notice that it happens in this instance given all of the the reports on Kenny’s health.

06:52.98
Jeremy
Ah.

06:59.34
Matt
I almost wonder if if they intentionally left them kind of a short window where kenny could go out there do as much as he could in short bursts and just get the hell out before he really hurt himself. Um, just kind of kind of buy him ah a fast-paced good Match. I mean he he wasn’t going to hit a 6 star or anything and in what 8 twelve minutes time but it was he could go out. Do enough service to the 2 year story that they told.

07:26.53
Jeremy
Yeah.

07:29.21
Matt
Put on enough of a show without just like absolutely destroying that shoulder that he’s more than likely going to have to have surgically repaired.

07:36.20
Jeremy
Yeah I if and am selfishly so I wanted I wanted more time and I wanted hangman to be the second person to kick out of a 1 we meet 1 winged angel but I’m I’m thinking either. That’s a rematch. Later down the road when Kennys healed because you got to have something to like make it a bigger match and that would do it or that’s just going to be reserved for a Bushci like abuci’ is going to be the 1 person and omega abuci have that retirement kind of angle at some point in the next few years um and they’re both injured right now. Essentially so so we’ll see. But yeah, that was my my biggest thing I’m super happy hangman win. There was something about it and I haven’t the bleacher report thing I’m sure you know any of the rest of you that have have purchased on bleacher report. And probably attest to ah complete garbage almost impossible to to rewatch this event. Um, so I haven’t had a chance to actually successfully rewatch this show but I really wanted to watch this particular match because I feel like with the commentary, especially with the the spots with the the Jackson brothers. Kind of almost giving their approval for hangman to hit that buckshot right? Larry it twice on hangman um I think that would have hit a lot harder if we were watching it on tv with the commentary than it did in the arena.

09:02.00
Matt
Yeah, there’s there’s there’s some some bit of nuance in it that that we didn’t get um you know from a front row but 2 hundred level. Um, and you only catch so much with just that 1

09:12.45
Jeremy
We yeah.

09:19.72
Matt
The 1 camera that you’re getting on the Jumbot troon and not hearing excalibur kind of like ah pointing out that they gave him the nod and there’s there’s so much that that we didn’t get in that moment. So yeah, it’s it’s tragic that bleacher report sucks as bad as it does.

09:19.77
Jeremy
Yeah.

09:30.84
Jeremy
Yeah.

09:37.42
Matt
Considering I mean they’ve got the financial backing of ah I don’t know turner media so they they should be a well-oiled machine since it’s basically the same server farm that operates the Cnn website. Um.

09:42.63
Jeremy
Yeah.

09:49.96
Jeremy
Man um and bleacher report live was you know, not perfect, but it was pretty solid for the most part. So.

09:54.76
Matt
Yeah, super functional and the biggest complaint about ah be our live was just that it didn’t have some of the functionality that W W B Network had and they claimed to have been working on it and then you know all this upheaval in Warner and turner and and Discovery and all that.

10:04.30
Jeremy
Yeah.

10:14.31
Matt
Just got kind of cast by the wayside now we’re we’re forced onto this much much lesser app that was essentially crafted just for sports scores like 2 minute highlight clips. It was never supposed to be four hour events. Um.

10:24.55
Jeremy
Yeah.

10:33.40
Matt
I don’t like fight I don’t like fight at all because it it buffers and nine times out of 10 the app will just crash in the middle of something you’re watching and fast forwarding on it as a nightmare but fight is even a better option than bleacher report I know you gotta keep your corporate synergy. But.

10:46.28
Jeremy
Yeah.

10:51.96
Matt
Just just pick 1 and make it work and and because that that’s terrible. Um, because I I know there were there were there had to have been 3 or four moments in this show I had forty five minutes of sleep I can’t remember mall offhand where having commentary would have.

10:59.62
Jeremy
Man art.

11:11.68
Matt
Gone a long way. Um, really I want to know what excalibber was saying when Cm punk was getting booed by me. But I’d I’d like to know how like scalliver reacted to it. Um I was also really hoping that that you were going to have your Cm Punk Mark as friend.

11:16.87
Jeremy
Yeah.

11:29.79
Jeremy
Ah.

11:30.27
Matt
Ah, join us today ah to get to get somebody that was at least going to be like oh nos the greatest thing ever see him punctured win every match he’s ever in ah because let let’s just jump straight to that match because um, that that was that.

11:39.54
Jeremy
Um, well I.

11:46.19
Jeremy
So I do has some insight from Adam at least he’s like he’s solid like Adam agrees that he’s solidly see him. Punk is solidly on the way to being a heel. Um, it may not be happening as quick as we would like ah but like he cut a post match promo that they put in the road to. Dynamite thing that that launched yesterday and man he said he’s like remembering who he used to be and who he used to be was a heel primarily. So um, Punk is solid and that look that he gave the crowd while he was getting booed like when he took a break between like knees to kingston like.

12:11.50
Matt
Yeah.

12:24.38
Jeremy
Ah, he’s on his way did eddie gain so much goodwill that I thought it could have you could have almost done like a um and I would I hope they did it but I was just like I the ideal situation in that situation in that thing if if king. Punk was going to win to me would have been a wrestlemania thirteen austin bret hart situation where like Kingston passes out or something like that to where yeah technically he lost but like he he also you know.

12:57.62
Matt
See I I would actually argue that on the contrary that I think it does more service for everybody because Eddie did a lot of dirty shit that match. This was ah a biting a low blow eye gouges. Let Eddie win with some dirty shit.

13:07.27
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

13:16.53
Matt
Come back on dynamite and have punk challenge him challenge him to an unsanctioned match. You know if you want to play dirty I can do that shit too and then have punk just destroy his ass in that unsanctioned match. But I I think it would have done so much more even if Punk took the loss with an asterisk attached to it.

13:20.37
Jeremy
Earth.

13:26.60
Jeremy
Yeah.

13:36.60
Matt
Because Eddie did something dirty to get the win I don’t I don’t know how you let all of that stuff come Out. You know Eddie writes that that four page article for the athletic and that that whole promo I mean it They did so much work I I just. Some part of me doesn’t know how you let that end in an Eddie Kingston Loss. Um I know you’re protecting your protecting punk. Um, and if you want to turn him heal keep letting him go over everybody because it sure is shit worked for Cody. Um.

14:10.27
Jeremy
To cut. Yeah, that’s so that’ll be a later conversation for us.

14:13.44
Matt
Ah, but I mean like and I I can equate it to when when John cena started to earn earn crowd favor. He was doing the open challenge and yes, he won all the matches but he wasn’t going out here and like winning Matches. He shouldn’t have won. Seen it was going out just letting people put on demonstrations against him and then getting his wins somehow punk doesn’t really seem to do that like hobbs has had fifteen better matches than the punk match. Um I know Bobby fish can do Better. Um.

14:50.43
Jeremy
Man.

14:52.81
Matt
Like so it’s I’m I’m not seeing I’m not seeing the the benefit to having punk go over all of these people I think is my bigger bigger problem with all of it I know that fanfare and everybody in that room with us was was pretty soundly. You know. See him punk fans. Um, but I I really do I think it’s doing a disservice to everybody including punk to to not have him get a loss here pretty quickly. Um, and it’s always the easiest way to have somebody turn heal is to to have a.

15:21.58
Jeremy
Yeah.

15:30.56
Matt
Take a loss and then flip their shit about it like it. It charlotte flair has done it 15 different times now. So I really do I love the Mad king with with all of my wrestling heart. He will be a champ 1 day I truly believe it.

15:31.48
Jeremy
Yeah.

15:50.49
Matt
Um, so it was it. It actually and I think that took a little of the wind out of my sails when when we got to the main event that I was I was so heartbroken that I didn’t get to see Eddie Beat punk that it it. It really did it. It kind of just like my mood had a there was a plateau.

16:01.99
Jeremy
Yeah.

16:09.70
Matt
And even getting my cowboy shit ending I was I was not going to be able to to get past it.

16:14.56
Jeremy
And even like we went into it and our prediction post. We both said that in our our our heads say that cmpunk was going to win that match but our hearts wanted eddie eddie to win like that’s like we knew logically what was going to happen. But. Still It’s still hurt. But I like you know with anything. It’s just like especially with the inevitability of hangman winning and stuff like that I almost kind of wanted a little bit of surprise and I I would say that full gear. Although in a lot of ways was very satisfying and giving you the endings that you wanted. Ah. I still kind of wanted. Um some a little bit of surprise here and there and I thought that punk kingston match and the ah danielson miro match had were the 2 opportunities to do that. Um, and that they didn’t they didn’t choose to do that which i. I I can’t necessarily I fault them for it. It’s it’s nice that it’s not always the vince wick man I’m just going to do a who like end night shamelon ending like just because I can ah but you know that’s where we’re at amerus.

17:24.54
Matt
Oh shit how how does Joey janeella have a money in the bank briefcase. So I will we’ll just kind of we’ll kind of quick pop some some finishes ah in a minute but but so that we can really expand on.

17:29.48
Jeremy
Ah.

17:43.22
Matt
You know the bigger things for us and in particular you know it’s our podcast and we only got 8 listeners. Ah what is your match of the night.

17:45.75
Jeremy
Yeah, match of the night. Um I think I said this before when we were after the show. But for me if they if they continue the Punk. And kingston ah storyline. Then honestly it might be my match of the night even if it even though it deflated me I I thought there was just so much fire in both sides that I it really it really got me there. Um and then probably second is is the. The darby um man who’s that guy mjf ah like that that was a a fun match a very like a very technical match which I wasn’t really expecting. Um, so that I enjoyed that match a lot. Ah but but the punk punk kingston match.

18:23.93
Matt
Um, and mjf.

18:40.90
Jeremy
If they somehow continue this story then it would actually be the top I’m I’m about 5050 on whether or not they’re actually going to do that or not um and we’ll we’ll kind of see tonight. Maybe ah there was ah unfortunately a rumor that Kingston was was beat up and he had to cancel ah a convention appearance on Sunday but. Ah, he then tweeted that he wasn’t missing any work so I don’t know if that means like Ricky starks I’m not missing any work because I’m going to be on commentary for the next four months. Ah, but you know.

19:08.53
Matt
I I think I So I saw something that he had to miss that convention the next day because he was at the doctor having Mris done like um so it it must have come back. Okay I don’t imagine he’s going to work a match for at least a few weeks. But.

19:16.88
Jeremy
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

19:26.42
Matt
Hopefully hopefully we get the mad king with a microphone. Um, but I’m I’m glad you brought up the Mjf darby match. Ah that match was just a load of fun from start to finish even though just before it happened I totally called the ending um in it. That’s how it had to end.

19:40.29
Jeremy
Yeah.

19:46.13
Matt
Um, the 1 complaint that I have about that match is that most of the promotion involved the four pillars and I felt like it needed to be a fatal fourway. We need to get to that match. We need the four pillars of a hew in a fatal four way.

19:56.24
Jeremy
Um, right.

20:04.98
Matt
Doesn’t have to be elimination though I would vastly prefer it. Um, for 1 I they I need to get find a way to get sammy guvara the the hell away from all of this five man tag horse shit that he keeps getting stuck in but yeah darby and m jf.

20:24.23
Jeremy
Right.

20:24.28
Matt
Technical masterpiece. Um I mean Darby for all of his crazy body bag bumps just psychotic stuff and the coffin drop onto the the apron where he caught his foot on the rope coming down and landed wrong.

20:40.46
Jeremy
Yeah.

20:42.53
Matt
I thought for sure he had just like completely separated his arm and was going to have to stop? Ah, but no got right back up. But even with all of that I mean the the kid may be the man of a thousand and 2 holds. Um because that it was impressive. Um. And and we’ve we’ve seen just from him working with with Jericho that Mjf is just as good. Technically. Um I mean I I got to be honest, if if 2 of 2 of the pillars that i. The the company I owned were built on I’d feel really damn good about it. Um, because these 2 there they really are they’re the future of professional wrestling. Um for all mjfs boisting or boasting that he’s going to take vince’s money here in a few months

21:19.54
Jeremy
Yeah.

21:31.56
Jeremy
Flat.

21:35.60
Matt
I can’t say that I’d blame him because like you’d show up take the money for a few few months get a few months off with your future endeavors notice and then just be right back where you were um, you know 2 million dollars richer for six months worth of your time ah pull the pull the Bronze stroman but yeah, that.

21:42.28
Jeremy
You have.

21:54.72
Matt
Hundred percent. Ah that match set the tone and I hell I don’t know if outside of luosaurus diving off the side of that ramp I don’t know if any any moment in the show had had better spots than this match did. It was just nuts the whole time.

22:13.80
Jeremy
Um, you didn’t love Dan Lambert spots. You know as much as I.

22:19.33
Matt
Yeah, his his little his little ah track suit ass running around the ring doing nothing but carrying a steel pipe I like is he going to do something at some point like he’s carrying the most brutal weapon that’s out here. Um.

22:36.70
Jeremy
Logically that match didn’t make sense. We’re going to jump over to that now like just on the the whole premise that it was a Minneapolis street fight and for the first half of the Match. It was just like a traditional 10 man tag match like there is regular tags and tags in. And it should have been a tornado tag the entire time and it eventually got to that point. But then why why was that just abandoned halfway through and the ref was like okay this is what we’re doing now like it should have always been like that or it should have always stayed a ah traditional 10 man Tag. So I don’t the logic. There wasn’t there.

22:55.70
Matt
Um, yeah.

23:02.81
Matt
And and what really what really sucks is had they just come out of the gate Tornado with weapons and like just just booked that match I think it would have been fine. Um, but realistically.

23:13.93
Jeremy
Yeah.

23:19.84
Matt
The 10 man tag portion of this match was the better half of the match. Um, once they got to the point where they were using weapon weapons. It was like everything they booked went out the window. Ah none of those mma guys ever seemed to be in the spot they were meant to be in at any given time and.

23:29.30
Jeremy
Yeah.

23:34.81
Jeremy
Um, oh yeah, yeah.

23:37.81
Matt
And chris jericho can only fix your timing so much. Um, like that that point where he leaned out of the ring waiting to get punched and just kind of had to stand there for a good 6 eight seconds like there it it does not go unnoticed. Um i.

23:44.74
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

23:56.21
Matt
Really do I Think if the if the goal is to you know show that these Mma guys are the top caliber athletes that that we all know they are um and Junior dosantos who’s openly professed his love for this and how much he he really enjoys what he’s doing um I think it I think.

24:08.75
Jeremy
Yeah.

24:15.79
Matt
Sticking with a traditional tag match might have been the better way to go but or done a stadium stampede so they could have filmed it and fixed the the bad spots.

24:17.59
Jeremy
Um, yeah, um. Right? Ah, you know and then beyond that I would say this is the worst match on the show and even then I was I I was I wasn’t bored or or anything if anything I was just like upset with the logic but there was no. I mean there was no stakes in this for me to be like upset about the outcome either. But um, it was fine. It was fine and that’s that’s if that’s the worst match of the night and I just say it’s fine. That’s that’s pretty good. Ah brit baker versus ty conti.

24:53.74
Matt
Yeah.

24:59.65
Matt
I In my head I set the bar Um, probably at ah an an unreachable level. Um, you know that I I know that that that they could have put on a better match it kind of felt like they had gotten cut a little short. Um.

24:59.99
Jeremy
What do you feel about think about that.

25:06.90
Jeremy
Ah.

25:15.83
Jeremy
Yeah.

25:19.44
Matt
I did enjoy it. There were what 10 false finishes in this thing I thought ty conti won this belt 3 different times. Um because she was just beating the hell out of Brit baker but you know the the champ retains it was ah it was a good match I think it was it may have been bookended between you know.

25:21.52
Jeremy
M.

25:39.22
Matt
And just in in spot a spot where it wasn’t going to be able to win. Um, unless it it was that Brit baker thunder rosa match. Um, which I if you put that match on this card that match is still the match of the night. Um.

25:45.66
Jeremy
Um.

25:51.51
Jeremy
Yeah.

25:55.10
Matt
So yeah I think I had the bar set too high but it was still a good match I can’t complain about it. They both they both did exactly what was asked of them. Um it it just looks to me like Brit baker’s not gonna lose that belt anytime soon.

26:01.65
Jeremy
Um, yeah, Ah, the omi person I think that at this point has a reasonable chance of beating Brit Baker is is Thunder Rosa Um, and she’s currently in that Tbs tournament. So like right now she’s not even in the running for like. She’s not even kind of gunning for this championship. So I mean I think they they maybe at Revolution they ah they have a credible Challenger Whether whether it’s thunderosa or not um, some people were saying Statlander is is possibly also ah a reasonable challenger but well. We’ll kind of see.

26:41.10
Matt
I’m I’m starting to feel like that Tbs belt may have been thrown in here so that they could put some kind of belt on statlander without without taking the belt from from Brit baker but.

26:48.23
Jeremy
Yeah lumberjack alien statlander we had that on rampage that Friday and a lot of people didn’t know how to feel about that ah that ah was

26:56.81
Matt
Um, yeah, we ah I know how I felt I don’t I don’t want to get us canceled but I know how I felt Um, yeah, that was that was something special.

27:07.49
Jeremy
Ah, yeah.

27:14.35
Jeremy
Yeah.

27:16.12
Matt
Um, I won’t I won’t get in any any detail about it but she’s she’s an amazing talent and you know she’s she’s beautiful. So it’s it’s a combination of those 2 things put together. Um.

27:25.29
Jeremy
Yeah, and ah, right before we’ll just kind of just jump on rampage real quick orange cassidy was very ah upset but he was still doing this. Ah. Can we just get this over with like this Matt hardy thing. Ah it was a very ah he was speaking for all of us when he did that promo ahead of the the main event interview and as you pointed out, they’re still technically doing a Hardy family office ah versus them. You know the best friends orange cassidy but it’s got a little interesting wrinkle in the fact that um orange cassidy was brought into chaos as well as stat lander and wheel of uta joining the best friends who were already in it. So. Now. Ah ocata sent along his right hand man to tag with ah ah orange cassie tonight against the butcher in the Blade ah tomo hero ishi so ah yes the stone pit bull versus I know the butcher and and ishi are going to go at it and and and that’s what I’m really looking forward to tonight on dynamite. Um, but back to full gear. Um, so maybe actually the the weakest match of the night might actually I might have to actually put. This above it. The luture bros against ftr I think there were just some I guess there’s some ports there. There was a a minor injury and stuff like that and I had to call some stuff on the fly. Um I think it ended up being that the legal man. Was not the 1 that was pinned in the end because they had the whole math. They both put on those those lucha mass fdr both did and ah I think it just became a mass towards the end. Um.

29:17.41
Matt
Yeah I I think that that they couldn’t tell how serious the injury might have been and they they needed a quick finish. Ah I almost think Fdr was supposed to win the match but they needed a quick finish to get them. Ah a rematch later on the on the technicality.

29:22.28
Jeremy
So yeah.

29:29.46
Jeremy
Um, now yeah.

29:37.12
Matt
Um, but they needed to end this 1 just just in case, the injury was something more significant than it was but.

29:41.94
Jeremy
Yeah, so I hope they get a rematch I Hope it’s I Hope everyone’s okay and and we get something that’s actually worthy of the talent of both these teams. Um, but yeah I think yeah.

29:52.98
Matt
Yeah, Fdrss having a having a rough go of it this year between the the stairs slicing cashche open and now I think it’s I think it was dax this time that that’s it’s his shoulder. Lots of shoulder injuries through you know by the end of this show. But.

30:04.98
Jeremy
Yeah. Yeah, and probably the matcher. Yeah yeah I mean there’s the the guys like he’s some kind of freak. Yeah um.

30:12.69
Matt
Yeah, somehow somehow not to Darby Allen but.

30:20.77
Matt
Um, he he’s made of rubber. That’s that’s the only thing I can I can put together.

30:29.89
Jeremy
And the match that I have not really had a chance to watch ah kind of both of us because we both went to go get food. Um was the cody rhodes and pac versus andrada eld eatalo and ammalachi black. We both kind of took that as the opportunity once we realized the american top team match which is what. Was when we were planning on getting food originally when we realized that was going to be at the end of the card. Ah, we went and got stuff there. Um, and because it was the most kind of thrown together latin match to the last minute ah cody rhoads got heavily booed in his entrance. Um, and. Ah j r was like I don’t even know why people are booing cody um, so I don’t it’s we got into a very strange spot in like half a year a year where you know everyone had pretty much had had love for cody and then they got sick of him real fast. Um, so I don’t know I don’t know where you go from here.

31:28.95
Matt
Yeah I I think he knows exactly what he’s doing at this point I think early on it was it was some vanity booking and he was he was booking himself over a lot of the the younger talent. Um your your four pillars kind of guys. Um.

31:36.78
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

31:44.86
Jeremy
M.

31:47.65
Matt
And it at ah at a certain point. The crowd starts to notice and that becomes an issue. Um I I don’t know it’s I I look at it I can look at a lot of things through the scope of how how vince Mcmahon books his superheroes. Um, you know the way he he booked Roman got roman no love the way he booked cena got Seenna no love cena ended up having to earn it back himself. Um, and I think cody knows what he’s doing um and I I think he wants to teeter this.

32:14.83
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

32:25.71
Matt
This heel line for just a bit. Um, but I really don’t know where you go with it. Um, there’s honestly, there’s there’s kind of there’s kind of too many heels. Um and outside a hangman. Do we have.

32:38.98
Jeremy
Ah.

32:45.62
Matt
Do we have a bunch of faces because I can’t name too many.

32:49.48
Jeremy
I Mean technically Fdr is our face. Um I mean Inner circle Basically now is our faces even though they started off a heels. Um, yeah, you got best friends you got like. Stuff here and there but not not all whole lot of top heel or top faces. Um yet.

33:06.93
Matt
Yeah, now it’s it’s it’s ah it’s a weird. It’s a weird thing. Well I guess I guess Darby probably counts. But yeah outside of like Hangman and Darby. You don’t have those guys you put on the placard as as your your top face guys.

33:13.37
Jeremy
Um, yeah.

33:25.70
Matt
Um, it it’s It’s weird that that he’s he he wants to toe this line I’m with you I’m I’m a little confused I don’t know where it goes. Um I thought it was a little strange that he got the win here. Um, especially considering all of this stuff. Ah.

33:25.60
Jeremy
Yeah.

33:44.70
Matt
Plus I mean that meant he went over both black and on dry day and that that’s not a good look. Um, but you know I mean I’m always happy to see you know the bastard get a win. So I guess we can We can take that as a silver lining here.

33:46.70
Jeremy
Yeah.

33:55.64
Jeremy
Yeah I did like seeing both teams. You know this was a thrown together match and both teams were not really getting ah getting along too well and they were both tagging each other in so like that I did like that dynamic they were both both dysfunctional teams and.

34:06.60
Matt
Yeah.

34:15.25
Jeremy
I didn’t see the end of this match. But I’m assuming cody like basically eked out a win here. Um, and I there I guess there’s a rumor that Malachi black is also potentially injured which is also a bummer if that’s true. Hopefully it’s minor and a lot of injuries in the show. Although you wouldn’t have really.

34:18.12
Matt
Yeah.

34:34.81
Jeremy
Known it from actually watching the matches but ah, they get they everyone worked through it. Um, but yeah I don’t know what you do I think the the problem with if if Cony cody’s trying to to teeter here between the thing if this is as intentional. It’s he’s doing such a great job that it’s coming across as earnest and then like. Especially I think with the show the reality show and stuff like that that it feels like it’s he’s kind of flying by the seat of his pants and that he is earnest on all this like all this stuff and and it’s not a kind of a plan.

35:08.61
Matt
Yeah.

35:09.33
Jeremy
Of action. So I don’t I don’t know like that’s the thing if anything he might be too good at if this is intentional. He’s too good at it at working us that it’s very confusing to all of us We we don’t know where the line is so um, you know and back in his dad’s day. This is like.

35:20.98
Matt
Now.

35:28.27
Jeremy
This would to be the perfect way to do it especially in a day where today where there’s no kfabe left. But yeah, it’s it’s ah it’s kind of kind of nuts. Um christian cage in jurassic express that we’ve kind of touched on this. Ah a very fun defeated the super click and that was a very fun Match. Ah. I don’t really have so much to say about it I think jungle boy proves that he he belongs has won the pillars with the exception that he needs to work on his promos but he his work and stuff was really solid in this.

35:58.10
Matt
Um I I think the and I think we we talked about it leaving the show the other day I I will I will never if if I if I live to be 2 hundred it won’t be enough time to understand. How how vince mcmahon didn’t see it with adam cole um, being in that room and hearing 15000 people boom in Unison that man is a superstar that man could have should have not even could have should have.

36:18.83
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah.

36:35.92
Matt
Main event at a wrestlemania already. Um, yeah, he’s he’s far too damn good at everything and he good guy. Bad guy doesn’t matter who he’s working with he he he’s the show Stopper. He’s. I I really do that. The only comparison you can make with a guy that has all the intangibles he has is that he’s sean michaels 2 point Zero. Um, and I I just I will never truly understand how how it it just kind of. Fizzled and and and I’m I’m I’m thrilled to have him in aew because that you know the sky is definitely the damn limit for him I will just I will never understand and if if anybody wants to point to just a clear cut example of vince maybe losing touch.

37:16.38
Jeremy
Yeah.

37:31.42
Jeremy
Yeah.

37:31.53
Matt
That that is 1 hundred percent it. Ah because that I I just I it it takes your breath away to be in the crowd when everybody simultaneously hits the Boom I ah it it’s it’s it’s a Marvel um.

37:49.90
Jeremy
Um, and they added.

37:50.78
Matt
And I’ve I’ve been in I’ve been in full crowds that that yes chant I’ve I mean that I’ve been in crowds that really pop for something and nothing has even come close to that.

38:04.96
Jeremy
Well I’d say I’d say the only thing that’s that I’ve been and also there for you with you is, but also there was like I don’t know like thirty forty thousand more people. But when the hardies came back the ww that’s still the biggest biggest pop. Ah.

38:16.64
Matt
Um, ah, that’s true. Yeah.

38:22.10
Jeremy
And you were outside of your body. So I think that’s why you don’t remember it so well. Ah, um, ah, ah.

38:25.50
Matt
Um I see I was in the ring waiting on them like I I I literally floated from the four hundred level at at camping world. Ah yeah, that that that’s true, but it it really is ah and. On a consistent weekly basis. He gets the exact same pop and it I mean every every third person in the crowd was wearing his damn t-shirt and I’ll never understand it. Never.

38:49.95
Jeremy
Right. Um, I think I think too like they a they added even more booms to this? Ah ah to the the song so people could just like do it a whole bunch of times that was very smart of them. But it’s also just incredible timing because it it does seem like omega needs to get some some.

39:04.48
Matt
Yeah, yeah.

39:13.83
Jeremy
Some time off to heal up and especially with what happened at the end of hangman’s match and and stuff like that with the young buckcks. It does very so much seem like ah Adam cole kind of takes it fills in that power vacuum of omega disappearing. Ah, for several months and like I don’t know there’s I don’t think there’s anyone better to do it I think it’s he’s like and it’s perfect timing of when he came in at at all out that he’s just there at the right time and he has just such credibility to be that. To be that guy and 1 of those top heels of the company if not the top heel of the company um to to thwart hangman and stuff like that and be in and an a thorn of his sides and he feels more natural than than omega definitely feels like amazing and ring. But he’s always a little bit of a weird weirdo like so ah I feel like you’ll feel a little bit more credible. Ah there at the top as well. Like ah promo wise ah not the omega is a bad promo. Just omega is somehow a weird promo ah that I can’t really explain.

40:13.00
Matt
Yeah, yeah.

40:21.53
Jeremy
Ah, someone was holding up a a sign at rampage that said Kenny is an Alien Um, and it’s It’s very true. Ah so I do wonder what happens to Don Callis ah with with ah with Kenny going away I’m I’m assuming that means Don Callis is going to be off Tv for. Several months unless he finds a new client. Ah along the way like kind of does a heyman type situation but we’ll we’ll see that later.

40:45.50
Matt
I Guess he could he could still ah you know, bring the good brothers back. Um and work with them. But yeah there there’s There’s not really a need for him. Um, and really his only purpose was to to kind of get Kenny over as a heel. Um.

40:51.20
Jeremy
Yeah. Um, yeah.

41:05.41
Matt
I mean shit that even the cleaner wasn’t necessarily a heel. He was just kind of a bad ass. Um, but yeah I guess the only ah the only match only match. We haven’t hit on ah the eliminator tournament.

41:07.42
Jeremy
Yeah, yeah, the.

41:19.62
Jeremy
All right? Yeah I mean we kind of touched on it a little bit but yeah because ah on the fact that it was of opportunity for a surprise and it wasn’t I did I was on the same flight out as Miro. On the flight I did notice his ah he had his head down but I noticed his bulgarian. He had his wearing a ah a tank top and he he had his bulgaria tattoo on his ah arm and I was like yeah that’s miro um I thought it was good effort as cage side said. Ah. Ah god and miro aren’t on good terms right now and and people that ah aren’t in good god’s good. Graces aren’t going to win wrestling matches so it kind of makes sense but I kind of want to see Miro I think you know if hangman defeats.

42:01.60
Matt
Yeah.

42:09.88
Jeremy
Danielson I Think that’s a really good coronation. Maybe even more so than than Kenny I Mean the the storyline was there with Kenny but with danielson technically like if he can beat Danielson I Think that’s a that’s a really good feather in his cap. But the match was good.

42:24.38
Matt
True. Yeah I mean it it didn’t it didn’t shake the earth or anything but considering that it was kind of a ah last minute replacement thing 3 days ahead of time. Ah, they they definitely they put it together. Well um.

42:28.87
Jeremy
I don’t have anything negative to say against the match.

42:43.53
Matt
That that was that was at least good.

42:44.00
Jeremy
Yeah, well anything else you want to to to mention I know you didn’t watch nxt. So.

42:50.88
Matt
I didn’t ah we are we are gonna do another another episode later in the week to get some some survivor series predictions I don’t know how good survivor series is gonna be but we will we will we will meet back and predict that um I will I will.

43:03.52
Jeremy
Yeah.

43:09.91
Matt
Briefly say that raw was surprisingly decent this week um they’re doing. They’re doing some interesting things with the with Adam pierce and sonia deville that I’m I’m entertained by um Adam pierce in particular has now. Ah, he’s gone full heel against the mysterios. Um.

43:26.51
Jeremy
Oh.

43:29.30
Matt
And I’m I’m for it. Um I like this I it it’s it I liked watching bobby lashley throw the mysterios around it’s selfish but I enjoyed it. Um. Austin theory has now replaced ray masterio in the survivor series match. Um, so they are. They’re paddding out team raw with some some absolute man meat here. Um, but yeah when we when we do the predictions I will I will have caught up. And we will. We will touch on ah the week that was hitch some predictions and go into survivor series.

44:08.44
Jeremy
Yeah we’ll talk about mooses as well who I’m assuming will be also on impact with Jos alexander versus murder grandpa so I’ll be watching that this week um and yeah, we’ll catch you later this week and I’ll let. Ah, Matt get some rest and ah like subscribe ring the bell you know, do whatever you want? Um, and yeah, talk to you later.